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What was that about a movement?

by msbatxnyc, Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 12:02:34 AM EST

Tell us again how there really isn't a movement behind the numbers...

http://mydd.com/story/2007/6/13/223057/6 76

Come take your lickin' in the extended entry.

75% higher turnout than four years ago. Huge spike in youth vote. And then to pull Richardson's delegates and line up all the minor candidate support? The Obama team beat Hillary at her game and Edwards and the blogs at theirs.

Bottom line: it matters if people get excited and like a candidate. In fact, it's kind of the point. It's how things change. I enjoy Paul Rosenberg's misty eyed rememberances of 60s radicals and their many marches. But I also know that FDR and JFK and RFK and MLK did a lot more to make this country a better place than the authors of the Port Huron statement. When you've got a transcendental figure, a once in a lifetime political talent, you should use him. Thank God the Iowa Caucus goers understood this, even though you otherwise generally smart folks couldn't.

And another thing: behold the new face of the party. Bye Bill, bye DLC driving the bus, bye Holbrooke wing of the foreign policy establishment. I love the blogs and have nothing but respect for everything that you and us, your readers, have achieved in the last four years. But we could try for thirty years and not move the party as far toward progressive policies as it just moved tonight.

And for chrissakes, the least you can do is not turn your blog over to spam artists like areyouready and incoherent hacks like Taylor Marsh. This place is a wreck now because of it. Have some intellectual pride. Hopefully after Obama takes NH you folks will put a stop to the Obama trash fest on this site, if you actually care about the Democratic party more than your own bruised egos as political prognosticators.

Tags: movement candidate, transcendental, Obama (all tags)

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Re: What was that about a movement? (2.00 / 1)

hahahahahaha... I just clicked your link, and I in addition to how wrong Jerome was, I find one other thing REALLY funny. Everybody go read that first comment.

HA!

by alipi on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 12:07:31 AM EST

Re: What was that about a movement? (2.00 / 1)

Amen.

by Shaun Appleby on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 12:23:22 AM EST

Re: What was that about a movement? (2.00 / 1)

It looks like Iowa was moved.

by aiko on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 12:25:12 AM EST

Re: What was that about a movement? (2.00 / 1)

Right on point!!!

"Apparently they have an 11-month calendar over there that's missing the month of February," Obama strategist David Axelrod

by Jr1886 on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 12:50:02 AM EST

Re: What was that about a movement? (none / 0)

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!

OBAMA BEAT HILLARY SOOO BAD THAT SHE CAN'T SPIN IT!

WOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!

THE DAY OF THE HATERS (AND CLINTONS) ARE OVER!

by win on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 01:46:23 AM EST

Taylor Marsh (none / 0)

doesn't like Obama, lots of people don't. That doesn't make them hacks. In fact her blog is well written and well documented and cited. She is very good at what she does.
Let's see if Obama can win when he doesn't have the help of all those independents and the media. Now that he has won IA there is no reason for the media to pull for him as much.
He's not a progressive and democrats around the country don't like him nearly as much as the indies in IA do.

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 01:47:32 AM EST

Re: Taylor Marsh (1.00 / 2)

"She is very good at what she does."

Yeah, she's good a being a whiny....

by Louverture on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 01:57:08 AM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh (none / 0)

"Let's see if Obama can win when he doesn't have the help of all those independents and the media. "

He beat Clinton among Dems too.

by Louverture on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 01:59:34 AM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh (none / 0)

DEFEAT IS A BITTER PILL TO SWALLOW.

Loosers attract looser. That's why you supported Hillary in the first place.

OBAMA IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. The news is all around the world now. I really can't help you.

OBAMA! OBAMA ! OBAMA! READY TO GO ! FIRE UP !

by win on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 01:59:38 AM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh (none / 0)

It's going to be quite fun to watch the Clinton machine collapse.

Don't get me wrong, there is a long way to go.

But if Obama wins in NH, who the hell in the Clinton campaign going to convince black folks to stop the first viable black candidate.

They can't ask that of black folks.

by Louverture on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 03:37:00 AM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh (none / 0)

He's not a progressive...

Nope. He's a liberal.

Glad we got that straightened out.

by Mark Matson on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 03:32:56 AM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh (none / 0)

I bet you and Taylor Marsh both still have nightmares about the Jefferson-Jackson dinner.

The other awesome part about Obama winning, God willing, is that an Obama presidency would really be a wake-up call on how mediocre Bill Clinton was as a President. When the Dems have control of all three branches in Jan 09 and start actually fixing all of these huge problems, we'll look back at the travesty that was the 1993 DLC-run Democratic party and shake our heads.

by msbatxnyc on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 01:54:28 PM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh (none / 0)

Oh, and p.s., the NH primary is open too, and given that McCain sucked it up last night, and Independents poll like Dems these days in NH and everywhere else, Obama's got a pretty good chance to ride more independent votes to another victory Tuesday.

by msbatxnyc on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 02:05:55 PM EST
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Best Diary in Months (2.00 / 2)

After months of BS, anti-Obama posts here and on Daily Kos, I have to say this is the best diary I have seen in a long time. It has been really hard seeing all the pro-Clinton and pro-Edwards crap on MyDD. Really pathetic. But I kept coming back to try to get a pulse of the progressive blogosphere. Now I realize just how unimportant it really is. We don't need you guys to move the progressive agenda.

After seeing Obama on Feb. 11th on his announcement tour in Iowa, I saw what he had to offer and have invested all the energy I had into his caucus campaign over the last 11 months. Tonight it paid off. I saw a doubling of the number of caucus goers in my precinct, mostly with Republicans (many) and non-parties that switched their affiliation, and many unregistered voters, mostly youth. The Iowa Republican Party suffered a severe defeat tonight that will take them a decade or more to recover from.

One cynical neighbor and Edwards supporter said at our caucus that "we'll see how many of those young people show up in November." What a dumb ass. If they will sit through 2 hours of caucusing, they will show up for a general election. Especially after how much fun we had kicking Clinton and Edwards' butts tonight. Our precinct finished 8,4 and 3 delegates for Obama, Clinton and Edwards, respectively. Man, was it fun.

It has been incredible to see the blogosphere crucify our progressive leader because they do not like the rhetoric he uses, or they have some ridiculous issue about his political style. Now that he has kicked the ass of the so-called-progressive blogosphere, it will be interesting to see how Kos and Jerome respond. And will Krugman keep up the BS through the general election?

Thanks again for the diary.

by tomcat on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 04:06:34 AM EST

Re: Best Diary in Months (none / 0)

To be fair, this place hasn't had the pulse of the progressive blogosphere for about 9 months or so (ever since Jerome declared his fatwa against Obama). A lot of the big figures here, Kos, Atrios, Chris and Matt, have been harsh on Obama, but they've been more harsh on Clinton, and rightly so. Honestly, the post that Chris did about Obama being simultaneously the best and worst candidate for the blogs was spot on. I just don't base my politics on what benefits the blogs the most. Sorry, we aren't that important.

It was tough for the blogs to have to switch gears right after the 06 elections to synch up with Obama. Lots of people remembered him initally backing Lieberman, and then not helping Lamont. He's not perfect, by any stretch of the imagination. But he's the right vehicle to get the most stuff done. Edwards, were he to stumble through until August getting pummeled by the press without money to fight back and still win in November, would never be able to claim the same mandate as the guy who turned out independents and new voters to win the nom. And Clinton just isn't an option, because her administration full of DLC-style triangulators would sell out progressive the first chance they got if they thought they themselves would benefit politically.

by msbatxnyc on Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 02:03:03 PM EST
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